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Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:57 pm
Named after a Beefheart song, this topic is unusual in that it
covers both bands, the two major rivals for the Boys in the '60s.


Voting on this song at PSF, I was pleasantly surprised to find it on YouTube:


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:08 am
Couldn't get "Nowhere Man" out of my mind this morning during the dog walk, particularly the guitar solo with its closing harmonic...

This reminded me of the "train music" in AHDN which caused many heads to be scratched over the years, including mine (and, when I emailed his office on the subject, Sir George's). It was Smiley's RangeRoverA1, to whom many thanks, who unearthed new online information. Her original link was broken but I rediscovered the relevant information elsewhere:  

[Session guitarist Vic] Flick and friends do not appear on one cue which has been baffling fans for decades — a brief rock-and-roll clip heard when Ringo flips on a portable radio while riding on a train. “That’s not me,” Flick states. So who is it? Notes Giles Martin, “My instinct says it’s not The Beatles, but more likely the session players my dad would have gotten in for the soundtrack recording.”
The track is indeed driven by [drummer Clem] Cattini and likely [bassist Alan] Weighell, the drummer tells StudioDaily. “That’s definitely me," Cattini says. "The guitars, I think, were ‘Big Jim’ Sullivan and Jimmy Page. They did a lot of the rock stuff together in those days, particularly on these kinds of sessions.”


Source: http://www.studiodaily.com/2014/08/beatlemania-in-black-white-restoring-a-hard-days-night-in-4k/



The Comments at this SoundCloud page are interesting:

https://soundcloud.com/john-c-winn/train-music-full

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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:35 pm
I saw The Rolling Stones live at Glastonbury Festival in 2013 and they were great! I've never really been a big fan of their music, as I've always been into many other '60's band which I thought were better.

However, and in more recent times that is, they let rip with a cracker of a new tune! "Doom and Gloom" is the lead single taken from GRRR!, the 50th anniversary compilation album which was released back in 2012.

I think it rocks and was great live too!


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:18 pm
Here's a little more information about A Hard Day's Night that may interest a few people out there. RangeRoverA1 at Smiley asked me to identify the classical duet in the opera scene that was rather abruptly disturbed by Paul's grandad (played by Wilfred Brambell).

It took a while to locate but anyone googling it now can find the answer right here.

It's from the opening duet (between Alfred and Rosalinde) in the Finale
of Act One of Johann's Strauss II's operetta Die Fledermaus (1874):  




This is where the AHDN excerpt begins:

"Die dir einst dein Herz erfreut,
Gibt der Wein dir Tröstung schon
Durch Vergessenheit!  
Glücklich ist, wer vergisst,  
Was doch nicht zu ändern ist.
Kling, kling, sing, sing, sing.
Trink mit mir, sing mit mir,
Lalala, lalala, etc."

[Which once delighted your heart,
Wine will soon give you consolation
By forgetting!
Happy is the person who forgets,
What can't be altered anyway.
Ting-a-ling, sing, sing, sing,
Drink with me, sing with me,
La la la, etc.]

Source: http://www.aria-database.com/translations/fledermaus.txt

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Die_Fledermaus


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:41 pm
More Beatles lore, fact according to John and fiction according to Paul. The death of mutual friend
and Guinness heir Tara Browne in a traffic accident inspired some of the lines of "A Day In The Life".
Pity that last chord is cruelly cut off but I guess these days one should be thankful for small mercies.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Day_in_the_Life

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Browne

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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:31 pm
This is cool.


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:54 am
This is cool.


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Tue Jun 26, 2018 8:56 am
This is also amazing and emotional!


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:30 am
I had this on my mind earlier this morning. Jeff Lynne once described George as "a magic man". He wasn't joking!


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:33 am
Mr. K wrote:I had this on my mind earlier this morning. Jeff Lynne once described George as "a magic man". He wasn't joking!

I've since been playing the entire album. If any Beatle takes me out of myself and to a better place, it's George:


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:39 pm
Mr. K wrote:I've since been playing the entire album.

I recall watching a George Harrison documentary some time back where he recreates the front cover of ATMP in later years. However, after a half hour search just---I can't find the picture, lol!

You have any ideas? It will be interesting seeing the comparisons.

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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:42 pm
George Harrison has always been the man to go to in my troubled mind. When I was having a lot of psychological problems there was a record player and on the turntable was the album All Things Must Pass and that simple statement guided me throughout, and still does, a quite troubling time in my life.

Here is another track (not from the above mentioned album) that I like by him.

Track: 'Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)'---George Harrison

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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:56 pm
DarkGothicQueen wrote:

A wonderful track, DJ! Thanks for posting. Cool

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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Sun Sep 09, 2018 7:35 am
A great interview.


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Sat Sep 15, 2018 5:05 pm
This is some cool archive footage. It must of been strange for them going for this period of their career knowing it was close to the end.


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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:06 pm
Cool Cool Water wrote:This is some cool archive footage. It must of been strange for them going for this period of their career knowing it was close to the end.

They don't look very happy, do they? Ringo looks thoroughly pissed off!

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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Mon Sep 17, 2018 5:12 pm
Mr. K wrote:They don't look very happy, do they? Ringo looks thoroughly pissed off!

It was a bad atmosphere in the studio at that time for them. I found it interesting in 1970 that Lennon and George sent Ringo round Paul's house to tell him not to release his first solo album before The Beatles "Let It Be" came out. Macca told Ringo to F off and released it before anyway, lol!

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on Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:12 am
Cool Cool Water wrote:I found it interesting in 1970 that Lennon and George sent Ringo round Paul's house to tell him not to release his first solo album before The Beatles "Let It Be" came out. Macca told Ringo to F off and released it before anyway, lol!



This is a stunning cover of a great "postumously" released Beatles track by Nathan Vogel, Smiley/PSF poster and multi-talent Zach Wolfe and others:

https://soundcloud.com/nathanvogelmusic/real-love-beatles-cover-ft-mats-rojne-on-guitar-and-zach-wolfe  


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Love_(Beatles_song)

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Re: Beatle Bones 'N' Smokin' Stones: Two UK Bands for the Ages

on Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:31 pm
Mr. K wrote:

He tells the story here at 2:32;


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